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Just a step too far for John in the end. A long career and wear and tear have caught up on him. I'd like to see Ryder retire now. He's made a good fist of it and been a generational survivor. Nothing left to prove.

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Yh I agree with you Steve. Btw congratulations on your prediction. I remember you saying you had a feeling that Ryder would get stopped and that’s exactly what happened.

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Cheers. It doesn't give me pleasure as we know John and he's a good guy but their careers are travelling in different directions.

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